Welcome To N Gauge Modelling

Welcome to the N Gauge Modelling website!

DATELINE: Saturday 14th March.

UPDATE - The Spring 2020 issue of N GAUGE NOW (No 21) will be mailed out to subscribers on Monday (16th) - apologies for the delay.

Orders for individual copies of the new issue can be placed now at our shop, priced at £5.50 (including £1.30 P&P). Go to SHOP now to order your copy (see cover image and contents below).

IMPORTANT! WE NOW ACCEPT PAYMENT VIA DEBIT/CREDIT CARD THROUGH OUR CREATE PAYMENTS FACILITY AS WELL AS VIA PAYPAL.

DON'T FORGET that our new SPOTTER'S GUIDE TO BRITISH LOCOMOTIVES IN N GAUGE: 2020 EDITION - is still available - see below for more information.

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SPRING SALE SPRING SALE SPRING SALE SPRING SALE SPRING SALE SPRING SALE

All back issues of N GAUGE NOW including our 2014 Premier Issue (Annual) are still available but please note that due to increased postal charges, all orders for single copies of the earlier issues will now incur a postage charge of £1.30. Orders above £2.75 will remain POST-FREE in the UK.

Issues 1-12 are now £1.95 each. Issues 13-16 (all 2018) are £2.50 each and Issues 17-20 (all 2019) are £4.20 each.

BARGAIN PACKS are now available - Issues 1-4 (2014/15), Issues 5-8 (all 2016) and Issues 9-12 (all 2017) are just £7 each.

Or you can buy Issues 1-12 inclusive plus a BINDER (normally costing £10.95) for just £25 - and we will also add a copy of our 2014 Premier Issue too! Go to SHOP now to order your Spring Bumper Pack.

PLEASE NOTE: The SPRING SALE offers are NOT available for delivery outside the UK.

If you have a specific query regarding an order or any item(s) on this website, please note that the website email address is: [email protected]

Howard Foy – Editor/Publisher

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IMPORTANT NEWS! We now accept DEBIT/CREDIT card payments through our CREATE PAYMENTS facility as well direct website payment by PayPal or by cheque/PO payable to ENGEE PUBLISHING forwarded with your order to:

Engee Publishing

40 Windsor Road

GREAT HARWOOD

Blackburn

BB6 7RR

If you want to order by post, state clearly the items you want and don't forget to include your address.

Alternatively, you can use our SHOP facility to place your order and then click on the "Payment by Post" button. This will register your order and your details with us and then you just need to send us payment via Royal Mail. You can print off a copy of your order for reference and/or to include with your payment.

PLEASE NOTE: We are happy to accept orders and subscriptions from Europe or the Rest of the World but please note that all orders from outside the UK will incur postage charges. See our SHOP for details. OVERSEAS ORDERS AND/OR SUBSCRIPTIONS CAN BE ACCEPTED BY PAYPAL ONLY. The BARGAIN PACKS of back issues detailed in the shop list are NOT available outside the UK although orders can be accepted for individual copies of back issues with each counting as one item when calculating shipping charges as outlined in the SHOP.

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NEW! NEW! NEW! NEW! NEW!

SPOTTER'S GUIDE TO BRITISH LOCOMOTIVES and other motive power in N GAUGE

COMBINED VOLUME 2020

A 56-page A5-sized publication listing EVERY ready-to-run British steam and diesel loco, plus DMUs and EMUs, produced by Dapol, Graham Farish, Hornby Minitrix, Peco and Union Mills since before 1970 - that's more than 1,500 models - with 90 full colour photos of steam locos, and more than 80 photos of diesels and electrics.

All laid out in Ian Allan ABC-style format with all running numbers, names, livery details and manufacturers' catalogue numbers.

More than 20 steam liveries and more than 50 different diesel/electric liveries illustrated.

Also included are details of catalogue items in the pipeline from Dapol, Graham Farish and other familiar names.

And it's just £6.95 (inc UK post & packing). Go to SHOP to order your copy now!

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BINDERS FOR YOUR N GAUGE NOW MAGAZINES

£10.95 EACH (inc post & packing)

#Cordex binder will hold your magazines together for safe and convenient storage

#Spring-loaded nylon cord for easy use

#Textured dark blue water-resistant vinyl covering

#With gold N Gauge Now title/logo on the spine

#Will comfortably take up to 13 magazines

#For Issues 1-12 (plus 2014 Premier Issue) or any 13 issues

See our SHOP or send a cheque/PO for £10.95 per binder to:

Binders

N Gauge Now

40 Windsor Road

GREAT HARWOOD

Blackburn

Lancs

BB6 7RR

IMPORTANT: Our Shop facility is not set up to permit multiple orders for the same item. If you require TWO Binders (or any other item), simply place TWO separate orders.

PLEASE NOTE: We regret that due to the excessive postage costs, we CANNOT supply Binders to overseas subscribers.

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The 2017/18 DIRECTORY OF N GAUGE LOCOMOTIVES is still available

Every ready-to-run steam, diesel and electric loco, plus DMU/EMUs and railcars in N Gauge available to buy.

Including what's in the pipeline

Plus specialist producers and loco kits

Fully illustrated in full colour

Over 40 different liveries depicted

PLEASE NOTE: All information contained in this publication is still current at the time of writing (May 2019) so please ignore the dates on the cover! Now £2 off.

Now just £2.95 from this website. Just go to SHOP to order your copy now.

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AN UNMISSABLE PUBLICATION FOR N GAUGERS EVERYWHERE!

Issue 21 of N GAUGE NOW: THE MAGAZINE is now available to order, priced at £4.20 plus £1.30 post & packing (TOTAL £5.50). Just go to SHOP to order your copy. We now accept payment by credit/debit card (through PayPal) or direct from a PayPal account or by cheque/PO payable to ENGEE PUBLISHING to:

N Gauge Now

40 Windsor Road

GREAT HARWOOD

Blackburn

BB6 7RR

Issue 21 is a 56-page A4 magazine in full colour with in-depth profile articles on:

#The Dapol Class 73 Electro-Diesel

#LNER Pre-Grouping steam locos in N

#Running-in your new loco - maintenance tips

#Hatch End - a 1980s WCML exhibition layout

#Farewell to Virgin - a round-up of N Gauge models

#3D-printed resin and laser-cut road vehicles from Osborns

#A guide to where you can see N Gauge in action

#PLUS all the latest news about new model releases and upcoming plans

STILL AVAILABLE . . .

Issue 20 of N GAUGE NOW: THE MAGAZINE is still available, priced at £4.20 (POST-FREE). Just go to SHOP to order your copy. We now accept payment by credit/debit card (through PayPal) or direct from a PayPal account or by cheque/PO payable to ENGEE PUBLISHING to:

N Gauge Now

40 Windsor Road

GREAT HARWOOD

Blackburn

BB6 7RR

Issue 20 is a 56-page A4 magazine in full colour with in-depth profile articles on:

#Profile of BR's Class 44/45/46 "Peak" diesels in N

#Steam focus on pre-Grouping Southern steam

#Picture Special on The International N Gauge Show

#Graham Farish limited edition wagons

#3D-printed GWR rolling stock kits from Osborns

#Christmas is coming - buying N Gauge by the box

#Events Director- - where to see N in the coming months

#PLUS all the latest news on new products and model developments

(also includes a full index of Issues 1-20)

Issue 19 of N GAUGE NOW: THE MAGAZINE is now available to order, priced at £4.20 plus £1.30 post & packing (TOTAL £5.50). Just go to SHOP to order your copy. We now accept payment by credit/debit card (through PayPal) or direct from a PayPal account or by cheque/PO payable to ENGEE PUBLISHING to:

N Gauge Now

40 Windsor Road

GREAT HARWOOD

Blackburn

BB6 7RR

Issue 19 is a 56-page A4 magazine in full colour with in-depth profile articles on:

#DMUs: THE NEW GENERATION - Profile of Class 168/170/171 in N

#FOWLER CAME FIRST - The LMS steam designs of Sir Henry Fowler in N

#THE ROCKET MAN - Modelling Era 1 in N Gauge

#COLLECTING PRIVATE OWNER WAGONS - The Peco Special Editions

#LAYOUT FOCUS - DREM: Resurrection of an exhibition favourite

#END OF A DREAM - The sad demise of DJ Models

#KEN'S GOT IT CASED - Celebrating micro layout's 20th anniversary

#EVENTS DIRECTORY - all the N Gauge on show in coming weeks

Plus all the latest N Gauge news and more - and it's 100% N Gauge.

ALSO AVAILABLE! Issue 17 of N GAUGE NOW: THE MAGAZINE is priced at £4.20 with FREE post & packing. Just go to SHOP to order your copy. We now accept payment by credit/debit card (through PayPal) or direct from a PayPal account or by cheque/PO payable to ENGEE PUBLISHING to:

N Gauge Now

40 Windsor Road

GREAT HARWOOD

Blackburn

BB6 7RR

Issue 18 is a 56-page A4 magazine in full colour with in-depth profile articles on:

#GWR HEAVY METAL - Churchward's 2884 Class 2-8-0 in focus

#SWANSONG OF THE SIXTIES - BR Class 60s profiled

#MAKING TRAX - The FiNetraX N Gauge track system

#COLLECTING PRIVATE OWNER WAGONS - By collector Chris Wright

#LAYOUT FOCUS - A Lancashire 1950s/1960s steam shed

#WAS IT WORTH THE WAIT? - Dapol's Pacer here at last

#WHAT ABOUT THE DIESELS? - "Modern image" heritage locos in N

#FANTASTIC PLASTIC - the Ratio model kits

#EVENTS DIRECTORY - all the N Gauge on show in coming weeks

Plus all the latest N Gauge news and more - and it's 100% N Gauge.

N Gauge Now

40 Windsor Road

GREAT HARWOOD

Blackburn

BB6 7RR

Issue 17 is a 56-page A4 magazine in full colour with in-depth profile articles on:

#RATS ON THE TRACK - BR Class 24/25 in prototype & N Gauge form

#LNER J-Class 0-6-0 tanks and tender locos in the spotlight

#ALL RIGHT IN WHITE - a winter-themed child-friendly layout

#HERITAGE N - the steam preservation scene in miniature

#CLEAN ROAD AHEAD! - Keeping out the dust and grime

#EVENTS DIRECTORY - where to see N in the coming months

Plus all the latest N Gauge news and more - and it's 100% N Gauge.

ALSO AVAILABLE! Issue 16 of N GAUGE NOW: THE MAGAZINE is now available, priced at £4.20 with FREE post & packing. Just go to SHOP to order your copy. We now accept payment by credit/debit card (through PayPal) or direct from a PayPal account or by cheque/PO payable to ENGEE PUBLISHING to:

N Gauge Now

40 Windsor Road

GREAT HARWOOD

Blackburn

BB6 7RR

Issue 16 is a 56-page A4 magazine in full colour with in-depth profile articles on:

#Nine Mills - the layout that keeps on changing

#BR CLASS 56 "Grids" in prototype and N Gauge form

#BR Standard tank locos - plus Fairburn's 2-6-4T and Ivatt 2-6-2T

#Bulk Freight in N

#Blue Is The Colour - or how Dr Beeching saved British Rail

#Peco's plastic kits - still going strong

#Leamington 2018 - Picture Special on the International N Gauge Show

Plus all the latest N Gauge news and more - and it's 100% N Gauge.

ALSO AVAILABLE! Issue 15 of N GAUGE NOW: THE MAGAZINE is priced at £4.20 with FREE post & packing. Just go to SHOP to order your copy. We now accept payment by credit/debit card (through PayPal) or direct from a PayPal account or by cheque/PO payable to ENGEE PUBLISHING to:

N Gauge Now

40 Windsor Road

GREAT HARWOOD

Blackburn

BB6 7RR

Issue 15 is a 56-page A4 magazine in full colour with in-depth profile articles on:

#Sprinters, Super Sprinters and Pacers - BR's 2nd Generation DMUs in prototype and model form

#The story of the ubiquitous GWR Pannier Tanks

#The N Gauge Forum - help and advice on the internet

#Train Operation - playing the Fat Controller

#Back On Track - in-depth look at all the N Gauge options

Plus all the latest N Gauge news and more - and it's 100% N Gauge.

ALSO AVAILABLE! Issue 14 of N GAUGE NOW: THE MAGAZINE is priced at £4.20 with FREE post & packing. Just go to SHOP to order your copy. We now accept payment by credit/debit card (through PayPal) or direct from a PayPal account or by cheque/PO payable to ENGEE PUBLISHING to:

N Gauge Now

40 Windsor Road

GREAT HARWOOD

Blackburn

BB6 7RR

Issue 14 is a 56-page A4 magazine in full colour with in-depth profile articles on:

#The Revolution Trains/Rapido Trains Pendolino

#English Electric Class 40 "Whistlers" in prototype and N Gauge form

#Stanier's Black 5 4-6-0s and 8F 2-8-0s - the 50th anniversary of the end of BR steam

#BR Freight Formations for N

#Spotlight on mixed-up HSTs

#The Class 90 Electrics of the WCML in N Gauge

#Whatever happened to Hornby's Lyddle End?

Plus all the latest N Gauge news and more - and it's 100% N Gauge.

ALSO AVAILABLE: Issue 13 of N GAUGE NOW: THE MAGAZINE is priced at £4.20 (including post & packing). Just go to SHOP to order your copy. We now accept payment by credit/debit card (through PayPal) or direct from a PayPal account or by cheque/PO payable to ENGEE PUBLISHING to:

N Gauge Now

40 Windsor Road

GREAT HARWOOD

Blackburn

BB6 7RR

Issue 13 is a 60-page A4 magazine in full colour with in-depth profile articles on:

#West Coast Main Line 25kv Electrics in prototype and 2mm form from Dapol (Class 86) and Graham Farish (Class 87)

#Gresley's LNER "Second String" V2 and J39 (GF) and B16 (Dapol) steam locos

#Thompson's LNER/ER B1s from Dapol and GF

#How to scratchbuild an N Gauge APT-P

#Express Train Formations for N

#A survey of internet model railway forums

#Laser-cut and 3D printed models from the Arch Laser Co (Osborns Models)

Plus all the latest N Gauge news and more - and it's 100% N Gauge.

STILL AVAILABLE: Issue 12 of N GAUGE NOW: THE MAGAZINE is still available, priced at £2.50 (if ordering only this issue a P&P charge of £1.30 will apply). Just go to SHOP to order your copy.

Issue 12 is a 56-page A4 magazine in full colour with in-depth profile articles on LBSCR "Terrier" A1X 0-6-0 tanks and LSWR M7 0-4-2 tanks, GM/EMD Class 66 "Sheds", Layout Planning in N, the 30-year history of CJM Models, the Bulleid "Leader loco in N Gauge, Scenecraft "ready to plonk" resin buildings, kit-bashing road vehicles and Langston Bridge, a remarkable scale model of the Hayling Island branch. Plus all the latest N Gauge news and more - and it's 100% N Gauge.

STILL AVAILABLE: Issue 11 of N GAUGE NOW: THE MAGAZINE is still available, priced at £2.50 (if ordering only this issue a P&P charge of £1.30 will apply). Just go to SHOP to order your copy.

Issue 11 is a 56-page A4 magazine in full colour with in-depth profile articles on Class 20 diesels, BR Standard 4-6-0s, |Private Owner Wagons, Buying N gauge second-hand, Metcalfe Models, new liveries for DMUs, Del Prado models and Ludlow BR-era layout. Plus all the latest N Gauge news and more - and it's 100% N Gauge.

STILL AVAILABLE: Issue 10 of N GAUGE NOW: THE MAGAZINE is still available, priced at £2.50 (if ordering only this issue a P&P charge of £1.30 will apply). Just go to SHOP to order your copy.

ISSUE 10 is a 56-page A4 magazine in full colour with in-depth profile articles on Diesel Multiple Units: The First Generation plus GWR Halls, Manors and Granges, plus a look at N Gauge car models for your layout, an intricate N Gauge layout in a 30in x 30in box, modelling Japanese railways, the scenic accessories of Langley Models and a special investigation into the rising cost of N Gauge ready-to-run models. Plus all the latest N Gauge news and more - and it's 100% N Gauge.

STILL AVAILABLE: Issue 9 of N GAUGE NOW: THE MAGAZINE is still available, priced at £2.50 (if ordering only this issue a P&P charge of £1.30 will apply). Just go to SHOP to order your copy.

Issue 9 is a 56-page A4 magazine in full colour with articles on the BRCW 'Crompton' Class 26/27/33 diesels and LMS Royal Scots and Jubilees in N Gauge, Electra Vinyl Overlays, whitemetal kits and models from P & D Marsh, fictitious liveries, lorries and large commercial road vehicles for N and an in-depth feature on Heatherley, a "modern image" layout with an unusual feature - a working stone-loader for hopper trains. Plus all the latest N Gauge news and more - and it's 100% N Gauge.

STILL AVAILABLE: Issue 8 of N GAUGE NOW: THE MAGAZINE is still available, priced at £1.95 (if ordering only this issue a P&P charge of £1.30 will apply). Just go to SHOP to order your copy

Issue 8 is a 56-page A4 magazine in full colour with articles on East Coast A1/A2/A3 Pacifics and 0-6-0 diesel shunters in N Gauge, the fourth part of an in-depth series on RTR British coaching stock in N featuring Pullmans, Sleepers, Mail trains and more, and a picture feature on Japanese N Gauge exhibition layout Tohoku City plus articles on N Gauge and the internet, Dapol's Easi-Fit Couplers, vinyl overlays and lots more. And it's 100% N Gauge!

STILL AVAILABLE: Issue 7 of N GAUGE NOW: THE MAGAZINE is still available, priced at £1.95 (if ordering only this issue a P&P charge of £1.30 will apply). Just go to SHOP to order your copy

Issue 7 is a 56-page A4 magazine in full colour with articles on Class 31 diesels and Southern Railway steam locos in N Gauge, the third part of an in-depth series on British coaching stock in N featuring pre-war coaches of the "Big Four" and a picture feature on top N Gauge exhibition layout Dragonby plus articles on N Gauge buses, Britain's modelling "Eras", military modelling, modifying Class 20s and lots more. And it's 100% N Gauge!

STILL AVAILABLE: Issue 6 of N GAUGE NOW: THE MAGAZINE is still available, priced at £1.95 (if ordering only this issue a P&P charge of £1.30 will apply). Just go to SHOP to order your copy.

Issue 6 is a 56-page A4 magazine in full colour with articles on the Deltics, Britannias and 9Fs in N Gauge, the second part of an in-depth series on British coaching stock in N featuring Mk2, M3 and M4 coaches, a picture feature on an intriguing US-themed layout plus articles on military modelling, brass kits, modifying tanker wagons and lots more. And it's 100% N Gauge!

STILL AVAILABLE: Issue 5 of N GAUGE NOW: THE MAGAZINE is still available, priced at £1.95 (if ordering only this issue a P&P charge of £1.30 will apply). Just go to SHOP to order your copy.

Issue 5 is a 56-page A4 magazine in full colour with articles on the GWR Castles and Kings and Class 37 diesels in N Gauge, the first part of an in-depth series on British coaching stock in N, the Japanese Unitrack system, the early history of N gauge as developed by Graham Farish and lots more. And it's 100% N Gauge!

STILL AVAILABLE: Issue 4 of N GAUGE NOW: THE MAGAZINE is still available, now half-price at £1.95 (if ordering only this issue a P&P charge of £1.30 will apply). Just go to SHOP to order your copy.

Issue 4 is a 56-page A4 magazine in full colour with articles on the Diesel-Hydraulics Iincluding Westerns and Warships) and Stanier Princess Coronation Pacifics in N Gauge, modelling departmental operations, signalling for N Gauge layouts, modelling military trains, how to Anglicise Japanese Tomytec trucks, a brand-new steam-era layout recreating a Lancashire location and lots more. And it's 100% N Gauge!

STILL AVAILABLE: Issue 3 of N GAUGE NOW: THE MAGAZINE is still available, now half-price at £1.95 (if ordering only this issue a P&P charge of £1.30 will apply).Just go to SHOP to order your copy.

Issue 3 is a 56-page A4 magazine in full colour with articles on the Class 47 and A4 "Streaks" in N Gauge, modelling present-day freight operatiions, Irish railways, the Class 142 Pacer in kit form, Del Prado N Gauge collectables, Kings Park WCML N Gauge layout and lots more. And it's 100% N Gauge!

STILL AVAILABLE: Issue 2 of N GAUGE NOW: THE MAGAZINE is still available, now half-price at £1.95 (if ordering only this issue a P&P charge of £1.30 will apply). Just go to SHOP to order your copy.

Issue 2 is a 60-page A4 magazine in fuil colour with articles on Peco, HSTs and Bulleid Pacifics in N, modelling freight operations, trackside infrastructure for your layout, Lone Star Trains, Warrington MRC's steam era layout Glazebrook, plus speclalist modelling advice.

And it's 100% N GAUGE!

STILL AVAILABLE: Issue 1 of N GAUGE NOW: THE MAGAZINE is still available, now half-price at £1.95 (if ordering only this issue a P&P charge of £1.30 will apply). Just go to SHOP to order your copy.

The launch issue includes an EIGHT-PAGE SPECIAL celebrating the upcoming 15th anniversary of the Bachmann takeover of GRAHAM FARISH.

Also appearing in Issue No 1:

An in-depth look at BUILDINGS for N Gauge plus

*Classic layouts

*How-to advice

*Couplers for N

*Modelling DRS

*A look back at Lima's British 2mm range

*News and views

*And lots more!!

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or WHY NOT SUBSCRIBE AND SAVE MONEY!!!

Subscribe for the next four issues (Nos 21-24 inclusive) for just £19.95. Go to SHOP or send a cheque/PO for £19.95 payable to ENGEE PUBLISHING to:

Subscriptions, 40 Windsor Road, GREAT HARWOOD, Blackburn, BB6 7RR.

Orders/subscriptions from outside the UK are welcome but please note that Airmail postage is included - just follow the links on the SHOP page.

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The Premier Issue of N GAUGE NOW is also still available:

N GAUGE NOW was published as an A4 full-colour one-off magazine that's packed with articles of interest to N Gauge modellers including a SEVEN-PAGE SPECIAL celebrating 10 years of DAPOL as an N Gauge manufacturer.

There are also articles on

*The current N Gauge scene

*Classic layouts

*DCC

*Vinyl overlays

*Track choices

*Weathering

*Moving roadways

*Hornby Minitrix

*Which magazine for N?

and lots more!!

N GAUGE NOW was launched at the 2013 Warley National Model Railway Exhibition at the Birmingham NEC in November with a cover price of £4.95. It is still available but is now just £1.95 (if ordering only this issue a P&P charge of £1.30 will apply).

To get your copy click on SHOP and follow the instructions to place your order or you can place an order by post as outlined above.

PLEASE NOTE: While we endeavour to deal with all orders received via the website within 3-4 days, please allow up to 14 days for receipt.

Orders from OVERSEAS for N GAUGE MODELLING publications are welcome (payment by PAYPAL only) but AIRMAIL postage must be added (except for four-issue subscriptions, where it has already been added). For subscriptions to N GAUGE NOW, go to SHOP and follow the ordering instructions.

If ordering just ONE item (magazine or other publication), a fixed AIRMAIL postage element should be added where indicated. If ordering two or more items, again please add the AIRMAIL postage element as indicated. Please note that four-issue Bargain Packs must be calculated as FOUR items, not one. Overseas orders are also subject to a MAXIMUM of 10 items per order.

IMPORTANT: If you wish to order a subscription PLUS other items from overseas, please send your orders separately as the basic AIRMAIL postage rates listed will not cover everything. As just mentioned, the AIRMAIL subscription rate has a fixed postage element and hence you should place this order separately to any other orders to avoid confusion.